Tuesday, January 23, 2007

Norman VS Ga Normal



okeman wrote:

well come on la....

like it or not.... being gay emank nga normal tuh....

yang normal yah tuh cowo sama cewe.... itu yang normal... u like it or not.... itu yang normal di society... buktinya pada jadi undercover... kalo being gay itu normal kenapa undercover?

ab-normal alias nga normal ngga harus berarti jelek!!!

sb_santosa wrote:

Boleh dong berhayal kalau suatu hari nanti masalah orientasi seksual jadi lebih dipahami dan di terima oleh masyrakat keberadaannya dan bisa di bedakan antara orientasi seksual dengan seks bebas..

Selama ini homoseksual selalu di berkonotasi dengan seks bebas..makanya selalu di anggap enggak normal atau sakitlah..

seperti yang sudah dibilang..boleh dong berhayal... suatu saat kita bisa ngomong kalau kita Gay tanpa harus mengalami pelecehan dan labelisasi sebagai budak nafsu..

Kapok...pernah coming out sama seseorang bahkan sudah terus terang soal status merried eh masih saja cari peruntungan ngajakin yang aneh-aneh walau ndak terus terang tapi cukup bikin
mual;(...celetuknya.."lah elo kan gay!!! " emang kalau gue Gay..so what???


pippo wrote:

udah kok,
skr gay udah ngga dibilang abnormal lagi.
penelitian membuktikan.
yg bilang ngga normal aja yg ngga mau buka mata.


1. suatu yang dianggap normal itu adalah sesuatu yang dianggap oleh orang yang punya kekuasaan sebagai sesuatu yang benar. Kalo yang berkuasa sudah mengatakan sesuatu kedaaan adalah tidak normal, maka orang-orang akan mematuhinya. Contohnya: jama dulu, orang yang berkuasa di Indonesia, mengganggap kalo gay itu penyakit dan tidak normal, buktinya ada UU yang mengatakan bahwa gay adalah orang sakit jiwa (gw lupa UU nya). Tapi skr UU itu udah dihapuskan, tapi knp orang2 masih membenarkan hal-hal yang oleh Orang yang berkuasa dihapuskan? Krn orang-orang itu masih menutup mata, dan ngga mau menerima perubahan. Orang-orang ini ingin seperti orang dulu, pemikiran jaman dulu. Orang yg ky gini biasa kita sebut orang kolot / orang dgn pemikiran
jama dulu (biasanya orang tua/ orang muda berjiwa tua kali ya hehehe). Ini buktinya banyak PLU yang ngga berani bilang ttg orientasi sex mereka ke orang tua, karena mereka tau kalau orang tua mereka masih menganut pemahaman jaman dulu (pemahaman yg kolot). Coba kalo orang tuanya udah open mided, berpikiran
terbuka, wawasan luas, pasti fine2 aja. Gue yakin.

2. dulu gay secara medis dikatakan sebagai penyakit, dan memang benar penyakit adalah suatu keadaan tidak normal dari manusia. Tapi sekarang, pendapat-pendapat
kuno spt itu udah dihapuskan dengan adanya penelitian2 dkter dan ilmuwan di dunia bahwa gay/homoseksualitas bukan suatu penyakit. Jadi gay sekarang bukan dianggap penyakit, dan gay bukan dianggap tidk normal lagi.

3. kata normal itu juga punya banyak arti sebenernya, dan ngga seharusnya dipake buat menggolong2kan manusia. Hari gini gt lho…. Karena manusia sebenernya sama. Kita sama dengan yg lain, kita manusia juga punya hak yang sama dengan manusia lain di dunia ini. Bukankah inti dari agama itu adalah kesetaraan yang bisa membuat kita menghargai satu sama lain, yang membuat kita menjadi manusia yang lebih baik. Ngga seharusnya kita membeda2kan manusia atas gender, orientasi sex, agama, etnis, dll. Kita semua manusia.

4. buka mata dan pikiran

5. ini bukan pembenaran, tapi kenyataan yang emang ada. Gw Cuma mau membuka mata kalian. Jangan berpikir seperti orang kolot dan awam lagi.

6. kita semua sama kok. love u all guys


sb_santosa wrote:

Saya kan melihat dari sudut pandang sosial bukan secara akademis dan memang secara sosial (masyrakat) Homoseksual masih di anggap sebagai sesuatu yang abnormal, ini dipandang dari sisi keumuman seperti yang dijelaskan sdr okeman.

henryfromhamzah wrote:

gak usahlah mikirin pendapat masyarakat atau umum ttg normal ga normal..tanyakan ke hati kecil kamu aja sendiri.

gay yg merasa dirinya ga normal biasanya sih:
1. terlalu didoktrin ajaran agama
2. kurang terbuka pikiran..kurang bacaan ..kurang wawasan
3. trauma krn terlalu banyak ditolak ga tau krn kepribadiannya atau penampilan fisik.

gw ga mau berdebat atas dasar agama atau apalah..tapi liat aja kenyataan sehari hari di masyarakat. apakah setiap manusia punya kecendurangan utk tertarik ke sesama jenis.jawabannya adalah YA 100%. cowo cowo yg cakep mungkin udah ngerasa gimana mereka berada ditengah sekumpulan manusia bermacam jenis. pasti decak kekaguman bukan berasal dari lain jenis doang tapi juga sesama jenis.

ttg gay berubah jadi straight...lo boleh survey jutaan gay/biseks yg married apakah mereka totally hilang nafsu ke sesama jenis. jawabannya adalah NO 100%. kalaupun mereka bilang mereka sudah ga pernah have sex lagi ama cowo sejak married bisa jadi itu karena :

1. sibuk urusan keluarga dan anak..
2. mereka udah tua, penampilan tidak menarik alias tidak laku lagi
3. pergaulan semakin sempit , tidak ada waktu utk cari cari temen cowo.

itulah kenyataan yg ada..terimalah dgn dada terbuka..terutama buat STRAIGHT YG BERJUANG KERAS UTK JADI GAY..sampe dibelain ikut milis ini.


sb_santosa wrote:

Enggak usah mikirin pendapat masyrakat?? how come?? bagaimana bisa??? kita ini makhluk sosial...dari semenjak kita gubrak lahir didunia sampaia kita meninggal akan selalu melibatkan keberadaan orang lain atau masyarakat sekitar kita...

Kecuali kalau kita memang hidup sendiri di hutan...

Apa yang kamu tulis tentang alasan Gay yang merasa dirinya ga normal mungkin ada benarnya hanya saja terlalu sempit jika hanya itu yang dijadikan tolak ukur yang jelas Gay yag tidak merasa nyaman dengan dirinya disebabakan oleh sudut pandang dia terhadap homoseksual yang mana setiap orang mempunyai sudut pandang yang didasari oleh ruang lngkup pengalamanya dan ini pastinya setiap orang mempunyai ruang lingkup pengalaman yang berbeda-beda.

Soal Gay yang berubah menjadi str8, ini bukan kepada orientasi seksualnya tapi lebih kepada PRILAKU sama saja seperti seorang heteroseksual yang tetap setia kepada satu pasangan walau ketertarikan secara seksual kepada lawan jenis lainya masih tetap ada.

Contoh saya sendiri, status merried...ketertarikan sama cowo jelas ada tapi tidak ada keinginan untuk berprilaku untuk have seks dengan cowo dan hanya melakukan seks dengan pasangan yang syah. Lagi pula kadar homoseksual itu bergradasi bisa bertambah dan bisa berkurang.

Dulu sebelum merried liat cowo kinclong bisa sampe berfantasi saking edannya tapi sekarang cuman sekedar "mengagumi" yang indah2 tanpa harus sampe mikirin yang jorok2;))

Pick Up Lines: Making the Most of the First Minute



From stingwood

Sometimes its hard to maintain your pick-up artist consciousness. Just today I started chatting up the guy behind me in the coffee line. Forgetting my training, I made some lame observation about the weather- a topic, you might imagine, quickly exhausted. Needless to say, I soon found myself sipping coffee alone.

What happened? I had failed to successfully navigate the crucial "first minute" of the pick up encounter. When I look back at my disasters, most of my crash-and-burns have been in the first 60 seconds.

In the first 60 seconds, you're being sized up. Your target is giving you a one minute audition. That's how long you get to pique their interest.

Your goal in that first minute is attraction in the broadest sense. You have to reach a point where your target wants to continue talking to you.

Then you can launch into the next phase of seduction, building rapport and sexual interest.

Of course there are dozens of ways to create an attraction between you and the guy you're trying to open. You can use humor, innuendo, bubbly openness, cattiness, strategic touching, or simply rely on your good looks. The point is to get the guy involved and give him a chance to be attracted to you.

Fortunately, not all of my pick ups are as lame as the one in the coffee shop. Just the other day I hooked up with an extremely hot guy in the aisle of my local supermarket. I caught him checking me out, approached and opened him, and pretty soon we were laughing and exchanging phone numbers. What went right?
  1. I didn't hesitate. The single biggest thing you can do to improve your pick up game is to learn to approach guys that interest you without hemming and hawing.

  2. My body language was relaxed. Guys like guys who are self confident. If you look nervous or anxious, your social fear will destroy your chances even before you open your mouth.

  3. I smiled. My grin may be goofy but I've learned to use it with abandon. A smile makes you friendly and non-threatening, disarming your target's wariness, and as often as not your smile makes your target smile back.

  4. I spoke up (you're approaching him, remember?) and I had an opener ready. An opener is any comment that gets your target immediately involved. In this case I used my favorite, which is...

  5. "I noticed something about you." This is a great opener not only because it's totally irresistible (who doesn't want to know what you've noticed about them?) but also because it forces you to be spontaneous about whatever comes next. Because I never know what it is that I supposedly noticed about my target until I'm actually talking to him. "I noticed something about you... your head is shaven, why did you do that? You're really tall, does that intimidate people?" Or, in the case of my supermarket guy, "That's a really weird tattoo--what's it supposed to be?"

  6. I didn't fawn or shown neediness. Complimenting a guy you just met puts him in a position of power and makes you a supplicant. I always try to work a neg into the first minute of conversation--a kind of half-compliment, half-insult that puts my quarry off-base. With the supermarket guy, I "noticed" his cool tattoo (why else would he have a tattoo if he didn't want to get it noticed?), but I took back the compliment by calling it "weird" and indecipherable.

  7. I indicated I could only talk for a minute. Adding a time limit helps your target to tolerate your approach, since, after all, they're only investing a minute of their time.

  8. I kept rifting. Being talkative in a natural way gives you an opportunity to draw in your quarry and gives your guy a chance to start to feel comfortable with you. "I love tattoos! I'm going to get one... the design is going to be... afraid of the pain... a friend got a shoe tattooed on his chest..." Like a good jazzman, rift and improvise on the subject at hand, circling back at appropriate times to ask a few relevant questions.

  9. I watched for the connection. If you handle everything right and your pick up is going smoothly, about a minute into the opening you'll notice a subtle change come over your target. His guard will drop and his wariness will turn to interest and attraction. The signs are subtle but definite: his eyes will hold yours, his smile will become broader and less forced, and his body will relax. If you're doing really well, he'll laugh hard at your jokes, make his own efforts to keep the conversation going, and may even reach out to touch you.
  10. All that means you're "in."[style] You've passed your one[style] minute audition and are on your way to a successful pick up. Now keep exploring your target's loves and life and get him involved in the conversation.

Take Your Time While Building Gay Relationships



From Ramone Johnson, Your Guide to Gay Life.

Patience is one of the hardest things to learn in life, especially while building relationships. It's known that gay relationships mature at an accelerated rate, often much faster than relationships between straight couples. Nonetheless, one thing heteros and homos have in common is the time it takes to find the right mate.

If you've fallen head over heels for a guy you had a date with, met online or in any other situation, just be patient! Take your time getting to know him. Be sure not to panic if he doesn't call you on a daily basis or if you two aren't picking out china patterns after a week of romance. If you guys hit it off, chances are he's into you as much as you are into him, but any potential relationship will be much better off if you take it slow and get to know him.

First impressions are great, but you can only get to know a person well after spending time with them. Who knows, he may turn out not to be the person you thought he was. On the other hand, he might just be the man of your dreams. Only time will tell!

Transseksual, Minoritas yang Terlupakan



Sumber Kompas Cyber Media

BENARKAH Mbak Dorce Gamalama melawan kodrat? Pertanyaan ini mungkin timbul dalam hati saat membaca wawancara Kompas dengan artis Dorce (Kompas, 27/7/2003). Pada tanggal yang sama, Suara Pembaruan Minggu mengetengahkan kisah Liz Riley, seorang ayah yang berubah menjadi ibu.

ADA orang yang terlahir lelaki namun sejak kecil merasa dirinya perempuan sehingga mereka hidup layaknya perempuan. Contohnya, dalam wawancara dengan Kompas, Mbak Dorce mengungkapkan bahwa ia sejak kecil merasa dirinya perempuan. Liz Riley terlahir lelaki, bahkan ia sempat kawin dan memiliki anak, namun ia selalu merasa dirinya perempuan, sehingga akhirnya memutuskan untuk hidup sebagai ibu.

Sebaliknya, ada juga orang yang terlahir perempuan tetapi merasa dirinya lelaki sehingga mereka hidup sebagai laki-laki. Contohnya Brandon Teena, yang hidupnya dikisahkan dalam film pemenang Oscar, Boys Don’t Cry. Contoh lainnya Billy Tipton, musisi jazz Amerika, yang dikenal sebagai lelaki ramah, suami dari empat istri, dan ayah bagi sejumlah anak. Namun, ketika ia meninggal, petugas jenazah mendapati ia memiliki alat genital wanita.

Mereka merupakan contoh kaum transseksual. Ada yang disebut male-to-female transsexual (MFT), yaitu transseksual dari lelaki ke perempuan. Sebaliknya, Brandon Teena dan Billy Tipton disebut female-to-male transsexual (FMT), yaitu transseksual dari perempuan ke lelaki.


Hakikat transseksual

Selama ini alat kelamin fisik, berupa alat reproduksi, sering dianggap satu-satunya penentu perilaku jenis seseorang. Padahal, masih ada variabel lain, yaitu identitas jenis kelamin (sex identity) atau identitas jender, yang ditemukan pada tahun 1972 oleh Money dan Erhardt setelah meneliti ratusan individu. Menurut Kessler dan McKeena, dalam Gender: An Ethnomethodological Approach (1978), identitas jenis kelamin adalah perasaan mendalam atau keyakinan dalam batin seseorang yang membuatnya merasa sebagai lelaki atau perempuan. Dengan kata lain, identitas jenis kelamin adalah keyakinan mendalam pada seseorang tentang apakah dia itu pria atau wanita.

Sex identity, yang dapat disebut jenis kelamin jiwa, semata-mata tergantung dari perasaan orang bersangkutan dan tidak selalu sejalan dengan penilaian orang, pakar sekalipun. Jenis kelamin jiwa merupakan variabel mandiri terhadap seks fisik, artinya dapat sejalan atau bertolak belakang dengan kelamin fisik. Jenis kelamin jiwa mulai tertanam pada usia dua tahun, namun biasanya mulai disadari dengan kuat menjelang remaja.

Mayoritas warga memiliki sex identity sesuai dengan jenis kelamin fisiknya. Namun, transseksual memiliki sex identity berbeda dari seks fisiknya. Jadi, MFT bertubuh lelaki tetapi merasa dirinya perempuan. Sebaliknya, FMT bertubuh perempuan namun merasa dirinya lelaki (bukan sekadar tomboi, karena seseorang yang tomboi, sekalipun berperilaku kelaki-lakian, masih tetap merasa perempuan). Karena itulah, MFT berperilaku sebagai perempuan. Masalahnya, masyarakat sering menyalahkan, mengapa orang yang terlahir laki-laki sampai merasa dan berperilaku sebagai perempuan dan sebaliknya pada FMT.

Sebelum sex identity ditemukan, para pakar menganggap transseksual merupakan orang abnormal yang perlu disembuhkan dengan aneka terapi, termasuk kejutan listrik. Namun, kini disadari bahwa sex identity lebih kuat daripada kelamin fisik. Karena itu, jika seorang transseksual diminta menyelaraskan perilaku dengan bentuk fisiknya, yang lebih banyak terjadi bukan perubahan perilaku, melainkan perubahan fisik.

Penyebab transseksual belum dapat ditentukan secara pasti. Sebagian menduga pengaruh hormon dalam kandungan. Misalnya, kekurangan testosteron pada janin dengan kelamin fisik lelaki dapat menyebabkannya memiliki kelamin jiwa perempuan. Sebaliknya, kelebihan testosteron pada janin dengan kelamin fisik perempuan dapat menyebabkannya memiliki seks jiwa lelaki. Namun, sebab sebenarnya masih merupakan misteri.

Variabel yang juga menentukan perilaku adalah orientasi seks, kecenderungan mencari pasangan. Umumnya, transseksual tertarik terhadap lawan jenis sehingga mirip warga masyarakat umumnya. Namun, ada juga transseksual yang tertarik kepada kaum sejenis. Contohnya Julie Peters, politisi Australia, yang terlahir sebagai lelaki tetapi memiliki sex identity perempuan. Setelah usia 40 tahun Julie memutuskan menjalani operasi dan menjadi perempuan. Namun, Julie mengaku tetap tertarik kepada perempuan.


Lorong kegelapan?

Seorang bijak pernah mengatakan, "Apakah gunanya seseorang mendapatkan seluruh dunia tetapi kehilangan dirinya sendiri?" Banyak orang mengamini sabda tersebut, tetapi tidak mau menerima bahwa bagi transseksual, diri sendiri itu adalah jati dirinya sesuai dengan sex identity yang dimiliki. Dengan demikian, transseksual yang terpaksa menutupi atau mengingkari jati dirinya bisa saja kelihatan sukses, tetapi dari hari ke hari ia hidup dalam kehampaan, karena mendapatkan dunia tetapi kehilangan dirinya sendiri.

Sungguh beruntung jika seorang transseksual diterima lingkungannya, baik keluarga, sekolah, pekerjaan, maupun masyarakat. Namun, sebagian besar transseksual masih belum diterima lingkungannya, bahkan oleh keluarganya sendiri. Para transseksual ini terpaksa memilih satu di antara dua pilihan yang sama pahitnya, yaitu terbuang dari lingkungannya atau berpura-pura menutupi jati dirinya.

Pada pilihan kedua, seorang MFT, yang memiliki jati diri perempuan, akan berpura-pura menjadi "lelaki biasa", agar diterima lingkungannya. Namun, ia akan hidup dalam tekanan batin yang luar biasa dan tiada hentinya. Selagi mayoritas warga bangsanya mensyukuri nikmatnya hidup di alam kemerdekaan, banyak transseksual belum dapat merasakan apa makna kemerdekaan itu sesungguhnya. Jutaan transseksual hidup dalam lorong kegelapan, menunggu kapan sinar terang akan muncul pada akhir lorong tersebut.

Masyarakat demokratis mensyaratkan asas pluralisme dan egalitarianisme. Setiap orang, sekalipun berbeda, mendapat perlakuan sederajat, sejauh yang bersangkutan tidak melakukan hal-hal yang merugikan orang lain. Kaum transseksual hanyalah orang yang berbeda, yaitu pada identitas seksualnya. Seyogianya, perbedaan ini tidak dijadikan dasar untuk meminggirkan atau mendiskriminasikan mereka, sebagaimana masyarakat juga tidak boleh mendiskriminasi orang yang berbeda warna kulit, keyakinan, atau status sosialnya.

Di lain pihak, kaum transseksual perlu menghindari perilaku yang menimbulkan citra negatif, seperti berdandan terlalu mencolok, memperlihatkan obsesi berlebihan terhadap lelaki, dan menjadi pekerja seks komersial. Penting sekali agar para transseksual dapat membangun citra yang positif, di antaranya lewat prestasi, seperti telah diperlihatkan Mbak Dorce dan mendiang Billy Tipton.

Semoga seiring dengan meningkatnya pemahaman, masyarakat dapat menerima dengan wajar kaum transseksual, baik yang telah operasi maupun belum, sesuai jati diri yang mereka miliki, agar mereka dapat berdarma bakti secara optimal. Negeri ini sedang dilanda krisis multidimensi dan untuk mengatasinya diperlukan kerja sama seluruh komponen bangsa. Lebih dari itu, Prof Vern Bullough dari California State University, dalam "Transgenderism and the Concept of Gender" (International Journal of Transgenderism, Special Issue, tahun 2000), menyatakan pemahaman terhadap kaum transseksual akan bermanfaat besar untuk memahami konsep jender secara lebih komprehensif, hal yang sangat diperlukan guna membangun masyarakat dunia yang lebih manusiawi.

Bambang Suwarno Aktivis Perempuan dan Relasi Jender, Tinggal di Bengkulu

Monday, January 22, 2007

Cowo gay menghabiskan waktu lebih banyak di Internet


Survey yang diterbitkan oleh Harris Interactive dan Witeck-Combs Communications menunjukkan bahwa gay dan biseksual menggunakan internet social networks jauh lebih banyak dibandingkan kaum hetero, baik cowo maupun cewe. (Witeck-Combs mengkhususkan diri pada target konsumen kaum gay dan biseksual).

Menurut survei online pada 2.542 orang dewasa, 27% di antaranya diketahui mengunjungi youtube.com setidaknya satu jam per minggu, dibandingkan dengan 22% hetero; dan mengunjungi craiglist.com sejam atau kurang perminggu dibanding dengan 13% heteroseksual.

Melalui metodologi survei, para peneliti mencatat 2.205 orang dari mereka adalah heteroseksual, 267 mengakui dirinya gay, lebian atau biseksual.

Hampir dua kali lupatnya, para gay (32%) online antara 24 dampai 168 jam seminggu, dibandingkan dengan 18% heteroseksual.

Bob WIteck, CEO grup tersebut mengatakan, "Kami secara terus menerus mencatat penggunaan online yang kuat dari komunitas gay. Gay dan lesbian menunjukkan kebutuhan mereka untuk akan internetyang juga berarti kesempatan yang bagus untuk pemasaran. Jariangan sosial juga telah menjadi kebiasaan kedua bagi konsumen gay dan lesbian.

Internet digunakan untuk mencari partner seks.

Sebuah studi yang diterbitkan oleh The Journal Sex Research, 1 Fberuari 2005, mensurvei penggunaan internet oleh gay cowo di chat room, social networks dan tempat lainnya di internet untuk mencari partner seks.

Sharyn Burns, menulis dalam "Fotomu adalah Umpan: Arti dan Kegunaan Dunia Maya bagi Pria Gay," mencatat bahwa "Internet memiliki daya tarik unik bagi cowo gay karena seperti grup minoritas, dan terbatas, cowo gay memiliki sedikit tempat dimana mereka bisa saling bertemu tanpa rasa takut pada konsekuensi negatif dari lingkungan sosialnya."

Penulis mengatakan bahwa penelitian di AMerika dan Inggris mengindikasikan antara 17% dan 35% menggunakan internet untuk mencari teman ML.

Penelitan Burns mensurvei kebiasaan berinternet dari 790 cowo gay di Perth, Australia di tahun 2002. Dia juga mewawancari secara personal 25 orang cowo untuk mencaritahu bagaimana mereka menggunakan internet.

Cowo-cowo gay menggunakan internet untuk beberapa macam alasan: bersosialisasi, alat mencari informasi, keinginan untuk membentuk jaringan dan pertemanan, sebagai cara untuk menjaga kerahasiaan, dan menjadi tempat aman sebelum ketemuan, dan menggunakan internet untuk mencari perngalaman-pengalaman, hiburan, dan pelarian.

Burns menemukan: "Internet memberikan kesempatan bagi pria untuk terbuka soal status HIV mereka tanpa menunjukkan identitas mereka dan mencari pria lain dengan status HIV yang sama. Sementara banyak pria dari penelitan terebut melaporkan mereka penah melihat beberapa profil yang ada di internet yang menunjukkan status HIV positif yang dimiliki pemilik. Hanya sedikit pria yang mengatakan status HIV dibicarakan selama mengobrol di chat room di Perth."

Bunrs melanjutkan: "Secara Internasional, Internet turut mengembangkan norma-norma budayanya sendiri, dan pria-oria yang mengunakan internet merasakan perasaan yang lebih kuat akan anonimitas, rasa aman, dan kenyamanan dibanding yang mereka alami di dunia yang lain.

ANDY KONG wrote:

Dear qinkqonk

Mungkin karena para PLU lebih ada waktu surf tanpa hrs

menyisakan waktu untuk anak dan istri etc.

Regards

qinkqonk wrote:

yepp... it's a thing what u said..

dan kepikiran juga ngga di antara temen-temen
pada dasarnya kita makhluk sosial
kita selalu berusaha untuk bisa berkumpul
apalagi dengan orang yang merasakan hal yang sama dengan yang dirasakannya

trus ada juga yang bener-bener addicted
dalam sehari bela2in ke warnet 3-5 jam
nyari2 kenalan
kalo mungkin ketemuan, have sex, or even be a lover to each other

di sana kita ngerasain kenikmatan itu juga ngga sih
kenikmatan bisa melepaskan desire terhadap hal yang kita sukai, cowo

beda mungkin ama temen2 straight kebanyakan
mereka ga terlalu kepikiran ke arah sono
karena buat nyari pasangan, mereka bisa flirting di kampus, di mall, atau bahkan iseng lewat di jalan

gw sendiri online 8-14 jam sehari
gw juga bersosialisai di YM, milis, dan mIRC

sebelumnya gw minta maaf ma temen2, gw ga demen kalo ada yg nyapa gw cuman untuk nanya stat ama pic
atau miskalin gw mulu. nomor gw muncul di bawah, itu signature, untuk keperluan relation. so please be wise with it

di mIRC, kadang gw juga horny, kadang butuh pelampiasan
tapi mungkin karena gw ngerasa it's not me

gw ampir selalu ngebatalin janji ketemuan, pas dia udah mulai nanya, mo nunggu dimana, gw pake baju ini-itu
bukan karena apa, mungkin karena gw lagi ngerasa ga nyaman aja waktu itu

tapi jujur aja..
gw ngrasain hal yang sangat menyenangkan buat gw, bikin gw deg2an ampir kaya orang kasmaran
ketika cowo2 itu ngajakin ketemuan

yepp.. gw suka banget mengalami perasaan2 kaya gitu
makanya itu yang mungkin (menurut) gw, kita jadi makin addicted to internet

tapi itu sekaligus bikin sedih gw
karena kita jadi ga produktif
tiap hari kerjaannya cuman chatting mulu
ato donlot bokep

well... postif juga sih, kita dapet banyak temen baru dari chat
tapi apa yang bisa lo dapetin dari pertemenan itu

well, would u agree with me if i say.. come on gays, we got to something with our gay life
jangan cuman jadi orang yang bisanya menikmati kecanggihan teknologi doang
tapi kita juga bisa menghasilkan sesuatu dari sana

misal, bikin acara ketemuan.. buat yang seneng ngumpul, lalu bikin event bareng
diskusi, nonton, bikin hiburan

atau kenal dengan orang yang sama bidang kerjanya
terus bikin kolaborasi..

i'm sure it will be great

kalo temen-temen mikir terganjal dengan takut ketauan gay banget
humm.. yang bisa munculin atau nyembunyiin, cuman diri kita sendiri
kalo kita beneran serius dengan apa yang kita lakuin bersama
orang akan menilai dari apa yang bisa kita lakuin, bukan apa diri (dalam hal ini orientasi seksual) kita

i love u, gays!


PS: malem ini gw masih migren, dan kehilangan
but do share here, helped me on my pain
thx

Sunday, January 21, 2007

How Might Homosexuality Develop? Putting the Pieces Together

Excerpted from "The Complex Interaction of Genes and Environment: A Model for Homosexuality" by Jeffrey Satinover,M.D.

It may be difficult to grasp how genes, environment, and other influences interrelate to one another, how a certain factor may "influence" an outcome but not cause it, and how faith enters in. The scenario below is condensed and hypothetical, but is drawn from the lives of actual people, illustrating how many different factors influence behavior.

Note that the following is just one of the many developmental pathways that can lead to homosexuality, but a common one. In reality, every person's "road" to sexual expression is individual, however many common lengths it may share with those of others.

(1) Our scenario starts with birth. The boy (for example) who one day may go on to struggle with homosexuality is born with certain features that are somewhat more common among homosexuals than in the population at large. Some of these traits might be inherited (genetic), while others might have been caused by the "intrauterine environment" (hormones). What this means is that a youngster without these traits will be somewhat less likely to become homosexual later than someone with them.

What are these traits? If we could identify them precisely, many of them would turn out to be gifts rather than "problems," for example a "sensitive" disposition, a strong creative drive, a keen aesthetic sense. Some of these, such as greater sensitivity, could be related to - or even the same as - physiological traits that also cause trouble, such as a greater-than-average anxiety response to any given stimulus.

No one knows with certainty just what these heritable characteristics are; at present we only have hints. Were we free to study homosexuality properly (uninfluenced by political agendas) we would certainly soon clarify these factors - just as we are doing in less contentious areas. In any case, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that the behavior "homosexuality" is itself directly inherited.

(2) From a very early age potentially heritable characteristics mark the boy as "different." He finds himself somewhat shy and uncomfortable with the typical "rough and tumble" of his peers. Perhaps he is more interested in art or in reading - simply because he's smart. But when he later thinks about his early life, he will find it difficult to separate out what in these early behavioral differences came from an inherited temperament and what from the next factor, namely:

(3) That for whatever reason, he recalls a painful "mismatch" between what he needed and longed for and what his father offered him. Perhaps most people would agree that his father was distinctly distant and ineffective; maybe it was just that his own needs were unique enough that his father, a decent man, could never quite find the right way to relate to him. Or perhaps his father really disliked and rejected his son's sensitivity. In any event, the absence of a happy, warm, and intimate closeness with his father led to the boy's pulling away in disappointment, "defensively detaching" in order to protect himself.

But sadly, this pulling away from his father, and from the "masculine" role model he needed, also left him even less able to relate to his male peers. We may contrast this to the boy whose loving father dies, for instance, but who is less vulnerable to later homosexuality. This is because the commonplace dynamic in the pre-homosexual boy is not merely the absence of a father - literally or psychologically - but the psychological defense of the boy against his repeatedly disappointing father. In fact, a youngster who does not form this defense (perhaps because of early-enough therapy, or because there is another important male figure in his life, or due to temperament) is much less likely to become homosexual.

Complementary dynamics involving the boy's mother are also likely to have played an important role. Because people tend to marry partners with "interlocking neuroses," the boy probably found himself in a problematic relationship with both parents.

For all these reasons, when as an adult he looked back on his childhood, the now-homosexual man recalls, "From the beginning I was always different. I never got along well with the boys my age and felt more comfortable around girls." This accurate memory makes his later homosexuality feel convincingly to him as though it was "preprogrammed" from the start.

(4) Although he has "defensively detached" from his father, the young boy still carries silently within him a terrible longing for the warmth, love, and encircling arms of the father he never did nor could have. Early on, he develops intense, nonsexual attachments to older boys he admires - but at a distance, repeating with them the same experience of longing and unavailability. When puberty sets in, sexual urges - which can attach themselves to any object, especially in males - rise to the surface and combine with his already intense need for masculine intimacy and warmth. He begins to develop homosexual crushes. Later he recalls, "My first sexual longings were directed not at girls but at boys. I was never interested in girls."

Psychotherapeutic intervention at this point and earlier can be successful in preventing the development of later homosexuality. Such intervention is aimed in part at helping the boy change his developing effeminate patterns (which derive from a "refusal" to identify with the rejected father), but more critically, it is aimed at teaching his father - if only he will learn - how to become appropriately involved with and related to his son.

(5) As he matures (especially in our culture where early, extramarital sexual experiences are sanctioned and even encouraged), the youngster, now a teen, begins to experiment with homosexual activity. Or alternatively his needs for same-sex closeness may already have been taken advantage of by an older boy or man, who preyed upon him sexually when he was still a child. (Recall the studies that demonstrate the high incidence of sexual abuse in the childhood histories of homosexual men.) Or oppositely, he may avoid such activities out of fear and shame in spite of his attraction to them. In any event, his now-sexualized longings cannot merely be denied, however much he may struggle against them. It would be cruel for us at this point to imply that these longings are a simple matter of "choice."

Indeed, he remembers having spent agonizing months and years trying to deny their existence altogether or pushing them away, to no avail. One can easily imagine how justifiably angry he will later be when someone casually and thoughtlessly accuses him of "choosing" to be homosexual. When he seeks help, he hears one of two messages, and both terrify him; either, "Homosexuals are bad people and you are a bad person for choosing to be homosexual. There is no place for you here and God is going to see to it that you suffer for being so bad;" or "Homosexuality is inborn and unchangeable. You were born that way. Forget about your fairytale picture of getting married and having children and living in a little house with a white picket fence. God made you who you are and he/she destined you for the gay life. Learn to enjoy it."

(6) At some point, he gives in to his deep longings for love and begins to have voluntary homosexual experiences. He finds - possibly to his horror - that these old, deep, painful longings are at least temporarily, and for the first time ever, assuaged.

Although he may also therefore feel intense conflict, he cannot help admit that the relief is immense. This temporary feeling of comfort is so profound - going well beyond the simple sexual pleasure that anyone feels in a less fraught situation - that the experience is powerfully reinforced. However much he may struggle, he finds himself powerfully driven to repeat the experience. And the more he does, the more it is reinforced and the more likely it is he will repeat it yet again, though often with a sense of diminishing returns.

(7) He also discovers that, as for anyone, sexual orgasm is a powerful reliever of distress of all sorts. By engaging in homosexual activities he has already crossed one of the most critical and strongly enforced boundaries of sexual taboo. It is now easy for him to cross other taboo boundaries as well, especially the significantly less severe taboo pertaining to promiscuity. Soon homosexual activity becomes the central organizing factor in his life as he slowly acquires the habit of turning to it regularly - not just because of his original need for fatherly warmth of love, but to relieve anxiety of any sort.

(8) In time, his life becomes even more distressing than for most. Some of this is in fact, as activists claim, because all-too-often he experiences from others a cold lack of sympathy or even open hostility. The only people who seem really to accept him are other gays, and so he forms an even stronger bond with them as a "community." But it is not true, as activists claim, that these are the only or even the major stresses. Much distress is caused simply by his way of life - for example, the medical consequences, AIDS being just one of many (if also the worst). He also lives with the guilt and shame that he inevitably feels over his compulsive, promiscuous behavior; and too over the knowledge that he cannot relate effectively to the opposite sex and is less likely to have a family (a psychological loss for which political campaigns for homosexual marriage, adoption, and inheritance rights can never adequately compensate).

However much activists try to normalize for him these patterns of behavior and the losses they cause, and however expedient it may be for political purposes to hide them from the public-at-large, unless he shuts down huge areas of his emotional life he simply cannot honestly look at himself in this situation and feel content.

And no one - not even a genuine, dyed-in-the-wool, sexually insecure "homophobe" - is nearly so hard on him as he is on himself. Furthermore, the self-condemning messages that he struggles with on a daily basis are in fact only reinforced by the bitter self-derogating wit of the very gay culture he has embraced. The activists around him keep saying that it is all caused by the "internalized homophobia" of the surrounding culture, but he knows that it is not.

The stresses of "being gay" lead to more, not less, homosexual behavior. This principle, perhaps surprising to the layman (at least to the layman who has not himself gotten caught up in some pattern, of whatever type) is typical of the compulsive or addictive cycle of self-destructive behavior; wracking guilt, shame, and self-condemnation only causes it to increase. It is not surprising that people therefore turn to denial to rid themselves of these feelings, and he does too. He tells himself, "It is not a problem, therefore there is no reason for me to feel so bad about it."

(9) After wrestling with such guilt and shame for so many years, the boy, now an adult, comes to believe, quite understandably - and because of his denial, needs to believe - "I can't change anyway because the condition is unchangeable." If even for a moment he considers otherwise, immediately arises the painful query, "Then why haven't I...?" and with it returns all the shame and guilt.

Thus, by the time the boy becomes a man, he has pieced together this point of view: "I was always different, always an outsider. I developed crushes on boys from as long as I can remember and the first time I fell in love it was with a boy, not a girl. I had no real interest in members of the opposite sex. Oh, I tried all right - desperately. But my sexual experiences with girls were nothing special. But the first time I had homosexual sex it just 'felt right.' So it makes perfect sense to me that homosexuality is genetic. I've tried to change - God knows how long I struggled - and I just can't. That's because it's not changeable. Finally, I stopped struggling and just accepted myself the way I am."

(10) Social attitudes toward homosexuality will play a role in making it more or less likely that the man will adopt an "inborn and unchangeable" perspective, and at what point in his development. It is obvious that a widely shared and propagated worldview that normalizes homosexuality will increase the likelihood of his adopting such beliefs, and at an earlier age. But it is perhaps less obvious - it follows from what we have discussed above - that ridicule, rejection, and harshly punitive condemnation of him as a person will be just as likely (if not more likely) to drive him into the same position.

(11) If he maintains his desire for a traditional family life, the man may continue to struggle against his "second nature." Depending on whom he meets, he may remain trapped between straight condemnation and gay activism, both in secular institutions and in religious ones. The most important message he needs to hear is that "healing is possible."

(12) If he enters the path to healing, he will find that the road is long and difficult - but extraordinarily fulfilling. The course to full restoration of heterosexuality typically lasts longer than the average American marriage - which should be understood as an index of how broken all relationships are today.

From the secular therapies he will come to understand what the true nature of his longings are, that they are not really about sex, and that he is not defined by his sexual appetites. In such a setting, he will very possibly learn how to turn aright to other men to gain from them a genuine, nonsexualized masculine comradeship and intimacy; and how to relate aright to woman, as friend, lover, life's companion, and, God willing, mother of his children.

Of course the old wounds will not simply disappear, and later in times of great distress the old paths of escape will beckon. But the claim that this means he is therefore "really" a homosexual and unchanged is a lie. For as he lives a new life of ever-growing honesty, and cultivates genuine intimacy with the woman of his heart, the new patterns will grow ever stronger and the old ones engraved in the synapses of his brain ever weaker.

In time, knowing that they really have little to do with sex, he will even come to respect and put to good use what faint stirrings remain of the old urges. They will be for him a kind of storm-warning, a signal that something is out of order in his house, that some old pattern of longing and rejection and defense is being activated. And he will find that no sooner does he set his house in order that indeed the old urges once again abate. In his relations to others - as friend, husband, professional - he will now have a special gift. What was once a curse will have become a blessing, to himself and to others.

Cerita tiga orang liat-liatan



armanachbar wrote:

bagian 1:
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suatu hari di pertengahan tahun lalu ketika gw harus berangkat pagi tiap hari. berhubung naik angkutan umum..disanalah kesempatan utk sekalian cuci mata. 1-2 hari masih belum ada apa apa..gw biasa duduk di bangku nunggu angkutan dateng sambil baca koran. sampe suatu hari
tiba tiba ada cowo bermata bulat, bibir tipis , putih muncul...hmmm. .akhirnya dateng juga penyegar mata di pagi hari hehehe. beberapa kali aku coba liatin tapi dia ga ada reaksi. ok
deh..mungkin dia dari golongan lain. aku coba beberapa kali deketin dia ...kasih sinyal ke dia..tapi ga ada satupun sinyal balik. akhirnya gw putus asa dan coba lupain dia.

bagian 2:
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disaat gw mulai jauh dan cuekin dia ..ternyata sekarang berbalik..malah dia yg curi pandang ke gw..suka mancing utk kasih senyum. tapi gw kan jadi bingung..maunya dia apa. kenapa dulu dia
cuekin aku. akhirnya sekarang gantian..dia kirim sinyal..tapi aku ga kasih sinyal balik .

bagian 3:
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datenglah orang ke 3..seorang cewe..yg tiba tiba duduk di bangku yg biasa aku dudukin. si cewe coba cari perhatian aku..main lirik..tapi aku ga tahu..apa dia udah punya suami..atau coba main api. jelas aja si cewe susah utk dapet sinyal balik dari aku. akhirnya si cewe ngeliat cowo itu juga..dan dia mulai mengalihkan sasaran ke cowo itu. akhirnya mereka kenalan..suka ngobrol bareng dan jalan bareng. aku suka curi curi ngeliatin mereka ber2. aku yakin mereka ga tahan
lama. ternyata emang bener..ga berapa lama...mereka diem dieman. yg biasanya duduk bareng sekarang mulai pisah sendiri sendiri.

bagian 4:
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tahun baru..kisah baru. tahun baru dibuka dgn aku yg selalu kesiangan shg selalu muncul bareng dgn cowo itu . dia masih suka ngeliatin aku..ngarepin dapat perhatian dari aku. tapi aku masih
bingung apa yg mesti kulakukan. si cewe itu juga masih ada. apa sih yg sebenarnya terjadi. apa si cowo itu emang pingin kenal aku..atau dia cuma pingin temenan. gimana dgn cewe itu..siapa dia sebenernya. apa cowo itu bakal balik dgn cewe itu. terus terang cowo itu meskipun cakep tapi bodynya agak ceking..not my type. tapi kenapa aku selalu terbayang bayang pandangan dia..wajah dia.